Danke für die Kritik. Das habe ich bereits bemerkt, dass du nicht einmal die Hälfte meines Textes verstanden hast, auch wenn ich auf Deutsch geschrieben habe, nur um dir mehr Verständlichkeit zu geben. Außerdem bist du ziemlich sarkastisch. Sehr schade. Ich habe festgestellt, dass du sowieso nix kapieren kannst, egal welche Sprache. Daher werde ich auf Englisch schreiben. Wie immer.
Die Antwort wird sehr detailliert sein. Also besser Übersetzer nutzen.
I don't understand your persistence that we're writing something stupid. We always tell our readers that at the beginning it is very difficult to understand the articles, because the whole story needs time to grasp. It's a lot of information and it will come as a shock. We also emphasized that the articles are NOT accusative. This is a very wrong way to see our work, it's an investigation.
And implying that we're stupid for not expecting backlash.... I mean, did you read my comment? Even in GERMAN bro.... We FULLY expected backlash. We're not that naive, not with that sensitive information published there. Do you think we're a bunch of interns?
It's not wrong to be skeptical, and I also have a MT CD. But I have to shake my head how you still defend Dieter Bohlen,
"oh he isn't a good person, but..", regardless of the things I listed about him, you aren't backing down and reflect at all, but you check our website to find my comments in which you can find "weakness" to mock me. And proceed to say: We all know Bohlen likes to exaggerate... So even when he grabbed Thomas' genitals with his fist on camera was a joke, too, right?
By the way, I will gladly explain everything, even those which I had no intention to talk about.
1) I said I/we do not care who are the parents of Dieter Bohlen, it is completely unrelated to the forum. Here I wanted to talk about music. But you are acting as if we are judging his past. NOPE. However, WE care about his origins that have consequences for his partner, Thomas. That is why you see "thorough analysis". As we pointed out before, it takes a long time to understand things. Speaking of consequences with the law, is that a threat? Trust me, we will lose it. Not because it's false what we say. But because they're more powerful than us. You can laugh all you want.
2) You said Thomas is not seen with an evil eye. This is not entirely true at all. It was only after 2003 he received a big popularity. But his albums and his singles NEVER charted well until 2018-2020 with Florian Silbereisen. I also do not want to say why Thomas SUDDENLY started to work with Florian. So let's leave it at that.
In the articles it is written very well how badly he was seen in the 1980s and the 1990s. He himself talked about it. BILD wrote a rumor he slept with Elton John in Moscow. There is an interview with Der Spiegel on YouTube where he explains how all his albums were thrown on the trash. In the 1980s there existed articles about how Thomas and Nora were attacked with eggs and tomatoes on stage. Partly the reason why he became so hated was because of Nora, the woman 10 years older than him. And also because Dieter spread so many lies about him.
"He is lazy, he cant work" etc. The women sent letters to BRAVO saying how he is a faggot who walks behind his wife. And then there was Goldenen Zitronen.. and I already told you about the story with POP Rocky magazine.
So why do you even avoid these arguments? You classify your assumptions as facts, and our arguments as "alleged evidence, conspiracy theory"... I don't need to list everything here. I thought you knew what the website content was about, right?
3) We never wrote Thomas and Dieter had an affair. It is repulsive how you talk about the "position of the knees" as if it is something funny. It rather shows that Dieter is a pervert, he constantly harassed Thomas every time, biting his ears, touching his genitals... If the general consensus was that they were
"just business partners", do you seriously think Dieter faked such perversion? I didn't want to make this vulgar, but since you yourself started it... Even the lyrics he wrote aren't as cute and innocent as they seem. Yes, he wrote something, at least. It was Dieter who also said that Thomas wore corsets and that he had sentimental feelings towards Dieter. If Dieter is allowed to tell all that crap, why can't we expose him for what he TRULY is?
Since you always like to quote Bohlen's book, remember the incident in the London's gay bar? In the same book he says that he ALWAYS chose the venues and the dates of the concerts. Then in the same breath says that it was the record company who set him up in a trap. Now tell me, do you SERIOUSLY believe that? This is not about the fact that Dieter might be gay. But about the fact that he is CUNNING.
To justify Dieter's behavior, everyone says the same things:
It is a joke, it is an exaggeration. This is an example of narcissism and lack of accountability. "Just a joke".
4) I wouldn't call circumstantial evidence as
"alleged evidence". It is called investigation for a reason. Then come prove us wrong. But you haven't done it. Honestly, it feels like you only read the old magazines which were in your mother tongue.
5) Again, what songs did CC Catch sing? The songs which were meant for Modern Talking, no? So I do not understand why do you keep saying Thomas
"wasn't involved". And speaking of the "sound": Dieter did not keep the "MT Sound" alive with Blue System and Luis Rodriguez. It was never his sound, and will never be. It was the work of studio musicians
Ralf Stemmann and
Leroy Lee Davis. However, it was this Spanish guy who destroyed the style of MT.
Blue System songs were absolutely not epitome of MT style. And to call it the Golden Era of MT style is an insult to the band itself. And in my opinion, they were of absolute weak quality. If you listen to the songs of The First Album and In The Middle Of Nowhere, or any trash Bohlen madefor Blue System, the quality and the production are TOTALLY different. It is clear as day the difference between Leroy (and probably someone else) and Luis.
And again you speak about how Dieter was tired in the studio making songs, I don't see how he was tired making songs in the studio when he almost ALWAYS had time to give interviews for the media. That's simply contradictory and impossible.
This was also confirmed by Michael Scholz:
"Dieter was never in studio. He only gave interviews for the media. That's why some MT songs were BORING (!) ". – But Thomas was ALWAYS in studio... interesting, don't you think? Here it is the interview.
https://youtu.be/0lELHmsXKOc?si=k2XVTLdjnjmW7OW2
And honestly, I fully believe it.
Look at producers Frank Farian and Michael Cretu, how much time did they spend in the media? I do not remember either of them giving interviews daily for newspapers and magazines. Dieter somehow always had time for the media.
Besides, you also say:
"Thomas' songs from his Solo tenure after MT broke up in 1987 aren't in MT style. So he wasn't involved in compositions.". At the same time, you also say:
"Thomas isn't creative, others do it for him". This doesn't make sense at all, and it's really hypocritical. I'll leave it for you to understand this yourself, how these two sentences don't make logical sense
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6) It's VERY RARE for singers to pursue degrees in sound engineering and arrangement like Thomas did. 90% of time they always study arts and another occupation outside of music. Singers and bands, guitarists, keyboardists etc. they always hire studios and sound engineers. Do I really have to explain to you that this degree means that Thomas had
ALREADY learnt the craft? And, did you know that the Cheri Cheri Lady music video, where a
STUDIO was shown in the frames, was shot at Nora's villa in Munich? So tell me, what is
THAT thing doing in the family of idiots, and dog lovers who use mascara and lipstick, like Dieter said?
7) Before Systems in Blue appeared for the first time, "insiders" kept saying at the time including BMG Chef Andre Sellenheit that it was Dieter who was the main voice of the falsettos and his voice was recorded several times. After the big scandal happened, every "insider" jumped on the train that Dieter
"never sang a single note". Sellenheit also stepped back, and said that it is Dieter's voice BUT backed by a choir. This is a massive difference in statements. Don't you find it suspicious?
IF one day it turns out that Dieter wasn't the author of MT songs, I assure you every "insider" will come forward to say the same thing.
8) Thomas
IN HIS BOOK said that he HATED science subjects. However there exists this famous thing from the 1980s, which is making both of us confused, where it says he liked natural science subjects. But was weak in math, nd he gave a oral physics exam. Which means he lied in the book that's supposed to be an autobiography. And that wouldn't be the first time. So, what exactly are you trying to do here? Except only prove us right in our claims? Personally, I didn't like math but I was very good in chemistry and physics. What's that supposed to mean?
9) I am aware of the existence of "
Unbekannter N3", a so called insider who on YouTube goes by the name
"MagicStar80", and who filled the entire forum with idiotic misinformation. I will give an example, and quote a statement where he says that it is not true that "We Still Have Dreams" was planned for Thomas as Solo single.
Dieter hatte 1987 im Ernst nie vor das Thomas eine Solo Single zeitgleich zu Modern Talking über ihn bekommt. Geschweige ein Album. Dieses ist mir absolut neu. Möglicherweise wurde diese Information zu stark ausgedehnt.
Denkt mal nach? Warum sollte Dieter für Thomas ein eigenes Standbein aufbauen, obwohl es Modern Talking noch gab und beide nicht unbedingte Freunde waren? Gerade 1987 war die Luft sehr dick
Meanwhile there exist handful of old magazines where Dieter himself speaks about plans they have for Thomas to release a Solo Single, for example a very beautiful MT ballad,
"Why Did You Do It Just Tonight" was planned for Thomas. And it's from 1985! Let alone "We Still Have Dreams". It was in 1987, true, when Dieter said that he has no plans to do Solo Singles for Thomas because he was busy working with other artists. But yes, as always, Dieter lied. Or "exaggerated". But it doesn't mean that it wasn't planned.
https://i0.wp.com/www.diewahrheitubermo ... C640&ssl=1
So even the beloved "insider" that everyone here treats like a treasure is wrong and has no idea. Although I have to admit that some of the information he said was pretty interesting.
10) You can laugh and satirize all you want about the "clan". Here you are just wearing rose-colored glasses. Regardless of what you think, you have to admit that there exists a profound similarity between Rosalie Nitribitt and Dieter. As well as Thomas and, for example Gloria von Thurn und Taxis. Okay, maybe just a coincidence... sure.
This will be my last reply in this forum. If you want us to talk further, let's do it on our website. Not here. Otherwise it would be noisy and the members will start shaking their heads. Consequently it won't be my fault if you still haven't understood anything. Trust me, we know the history of Modern Talking. I hope you also start to learn it, step by step.
P.S. In this case I can't separate the music and the artist. Because, thankfully, the artist was and will never be Dieter Bohlen. So you can say, the ones who made the music are good people. Unlike the biological son of Rosalie Nitribitt.
Ciao