Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

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dominik karkowski
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Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von dominik karkowski » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 01:01

Hi guys, i thought i would start an interesting topic.
In my opinion. no one is allowed to say anything specific about things from studio33....
Questions about synths, about unreleased versions, techniques, pictures, get ignored or you just get something useless back.

Why is this all such a big secret? and why did (probably) Luis stop writing via his "Unbekannter Nummer 3'' account after he said too much?

Emmi
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von Emmi » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 08:13

Well, first of all, of course, the question is whether it was really Luis who wrote here. Even if many believe it, you can't be sure. If it really was him, then the matter is clear: he wanted to check the situation, he kept saying, knowing from users what is in demand today in terms of music, what one would want. Some of the things he said are 100 percent wrong, so one has to wonder whether he was deliberately giving false information or whether he wasn't.

Jochen W.
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von Jochen W. » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 14:09

Could you please explain which of his information were 100 percent wrong, or as we would call it nowadays, were "fake news"?

dominik karkowski
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von dominik karkowski » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 18:36

Emmi hat geschrieben:
Sa 26. Jun 2021, 08:13
Well, first of all, of course, the question is whether it was really Luis who wrote here. Even if many believe it, you can't be sure. If it really was him, then the matter is clear: he wanted to check the situation, he kept saying, knowing from users what is in demand today in terms of music, what one would want. Some of the things he said are 100 percent wrong, so one has to wonder whether he was deliberately giving false information or whether he wasn't.
Well, Luis tells lies sometimes. I asked him once (just as a test what i will get back) What synth was used for the main melody of CCL..... I know that its a PPG waveterm from Ralf Stemann (which it really is) but Luis told me that this Sound comes from an OBX, And for the ones that know.... thats impossible. Lian (his wife) also promises me things and later doesn't reply, like that she promised me that i will be allowed to make one remix of her song. Never happened. :D But on the other hand i heard that when you call luis he tells more. But i am not good at German so i don't want to even try haha

dominik karkowski
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von dominik karkowski » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 18:38

Jochen W. hat geschrieben:
Sa 26. Jun 2021, 14:09
Could you please explain which of his information were 100 percent wrong, or as we would call it nowadays, were "fake news"?

In my opinion the information about ADD and AAD is totally fake (not from him but wrong information on the cd) they used analog multitrack decks and tape machines so i don't get it.....

Peter@SIB
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von Peter@SIB » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 21:44

In my opinion the Situation is clear:
Why should a producer tell about his secrets how Music is Made he's producing?
No one of Musicans tell the Details.

dominik karkowski
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von dominik karkowski » Sa 26. Jun 2021, 23:35

Peter@SIB hat geschrieben:
Sa 26. Jun 2021, 21:44
In my opinion the Situation is clear:
Why should a producer tell about his secrets how Music is Made he's producing?
No one of Musicans tell the Details.
It's not what i really meant. I perfectly understand that he doesn't want to share anything specific.... But the thing is; Its not only him. Everyone around him is not allowed to say anything. And i wonder why. is it some kind of agreement? remember the interview with rolf and detlef?? :)

Peter@SIB
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von Peter@SIB » Mo 28. Jun 2021, 20:43

Once again.... there is Nothing special about musican's don't Speak about how they make their Music in Detail.
And this rule belongs also to the producers of Studio 33.
As far as i know just the SIBs have a contract with Dieter that Don't allow to speak about the work with Dieter.
All other... Luis Rodrigues... jeo... and so on are "free" .
But they got their reasons why they don't want to talk about their work in Studio 33 I guess .

Steffi
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von Steffi » Do 1. Jul 2021, 10:06

My english is not good, but I do my best. :lol:

Maybe you don't know this interview yet. It's very timely. Look from minute 3:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtkTDdAr8Qw&t=1034s

In general, some people agree that Dieter spent a lot of time with lawyers.

A lot of time. You understand?!

DietmarKohlen
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Re: Lets talk about why everything that happened back in studio33 is such a big secret.....

Beitrag von DietmarKohlen » Di 10. Aug 2021, 14:57

dominik karkowski hat geschrieben:
Sa 26. Jun 2021, 18:36
Well, Luis tells lies sometimes. I asked him once (just as a test what i will get back) What synth was used for the main melody of CCL..... I know that its a PPG waveterm from Ralf Stemann (which it really is) but Luis told me that this Sound comes from an OBX, And for the ones that know.... thats impossible
Well, it is almost 40 years ago since the songs were made. Maybe Luis could not clearly remember what synth they used and thought it was OBX ? Did you ever think about that ? I would not say he is telling lies or giving wrong information intentionally...

Where did you get the information that PPG Waveterm was used ?
dominik karkowski hat geschrieben: In my opinion the information about ADD and AAD is totally fake (not from him but wrong information on the cd) they used analog multitrack decks and tape machines so i don't get it.....
You got it wrong. He was like "oh yeah, tape decks" and then he was writing something like "you can see clearly what kind of technology was used for recording a track if you take a closer look at any CD backcover. There you can find AAD, ADD und DDD." It has nothing to do with his productions. It was just a general information.
dominik karkowski hat geschrieben:Why is this all such a big secret? and why did (probably) Luis stop writing via his "Unbekannter Nummer 3'' account after he said too much?

I perfectly understand that he doesn't want to share anything specific.... But the thing is; Its not only him. Everyone around him is not allowed to say anything. And i wonder why. is it some kind of agreement? remember the interview with rolf and detlef?
In fact there must be agreements (contracts) which do not allow the involved persons to talk about things that are related to the production of the songs. Even "Unbekannter Nr.3" did not talk about everything he was asked for. There are a few situations where he wrote "I am not allowed to talk about that".

Maybe these involved persons must pay a contractual penalty if they talk too much. It is possible that "Unbekannter Nr.3" was contacted by someone who reminded him of that. Maybe Dieter? Maybe a lawyer? We will never know.

Because no one is allowed to talk there is a famous discussion in Germany about Dieter Bohlen's part regarding song production and if he was actually singing in Modern Talking songs or not (except "There's too much blue in missing you").

He is claimed to be a "music god" in public but no one knows what he exactly did in the studio. Most people don't even know about Luis Rodrigues, Ralf Stemmann etc. They think Dieter Bohlen produced all songs without any support. Dieter cleverly knows how to hide such things and no one is allowed to tell the truth.

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